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[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And still Trump supporters tell me that Trump is the anti-war candidate and the Democrats always start wars. I guess they will blame the war with Iran on Biden, even though Trump pulled out of the Iran deal, antagonized the Palestinians, and did his best to start a war by assassinating generals. Let's not forget Bolton's "I'll celebrate with you in Tehran" speech.

[–] NobodyElse@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump is shit, but Biden’s hands are not even close to clean in this situation. He has done everything he could to allow the situation to escalate and the war is starting in earnest on his watch.

Let’s all be honest here and recognize when our team is doing the wrong thing also.

[–] OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Is it possible that the Democrats' hands are tied because the American public supports Israel and AIPAC has successfully primaried several progressive politicians?

I think they're in a tough spot politically, the left seems to think that support for Israel will cost the Democrats elections, but there's more evidence that if they do NOT support Israel strongly enough, it will cost them elections.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

You're probably correct in that it is a balancing act with no real winners.

It's too bad so few seem to be able to see the nuances.

[–] Miaou@jlai.lu 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Right, because D-Day and Vietnam showed clearly that USA politicians never act against what the popular opinion dictates