Until now. And I'm afraid that's the point the USA government wants to make with this barbaric measure. They will only leave Cuba alone if the American people demands it in exchange of enough votes or until the USA becomes a contested hegemon or until Cuba gives away everything they've fought for decades because, shit, it sure is terrible to keep holding on. To me, it doesn't matter if they can't resist anymore and give everything away, they are already a nation of giants, but I will always hope for the people of the USA to finally take over their electoral system and start taking decisions by themselves as in a true democracy.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Good news is that US can get fucked at this point. Cuba can trade with BRICS completely outside the dollar. Meanwhile, the burger empire can seethe and cope over it.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

We can only hope this happens soon.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They can also use their navy to make a full blockade.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That would be risking WW3, even during the Cold War the US didn't dare blockade Soviet ships coming to Cuba.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

During the Cold War there was a chance USSR would intervene. Who would intervene right now?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I imagine Russia would. Not because they want to defend communism in Cuba, but because they would want to show that they can't be bullied by the US. We already saw an example of this with Russia doing naval exercises with Cuba just recently. I also can't imagine that the US would dare attack Chinese ships going to Cuba. As long as there are nations that can't be bullied by the US who are willing to trade with Cuba there's nothing the US can do.

This is why the financial system is such a big factor. When everybody was using SWIFT for international trade, the US didn't have to threaten military conflict. They could just do sanctions or cut countries out of SWIFT. That was enough of a deterrent to make trade with Cuba unappealing. Now that more and more trade is happening outside the dollar, that threat is no longer there.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I imagine Russia would

Start a hot war against USA in the central Atlantic? Pentagon would go ballistic, as in "ballistic missiles", and even if the war stayed conventional, Russian navy would be in a huge disadvantage there.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I mean Russia would continue doing trade with Cuba regardless of what the US says. And if US started sabre rattling then Russia would send armed ships to escort its cargo ones. Even the US wouldn't be crazy enough to directly attack Russian ships trading with Cuba.