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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 34 points 2 months ago (79 children)

As a theory, sure. I just have yet to see it expressed in any functional way that didn't devolve into a shit show. See: Russia, etc.,

I think it's telling that so many wish for a return to communism but still defend Putin's atrocities. :|

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Russia devolved into capitalism. Funding a military is incredibly expensive and necessary when a communist country wants to exist in a world with the United States. This creates a militant economy that must be centrally governed to coordinate this military might. True democratic socialism is impossible as long as the United States exists as an imperialist force.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (12 children)

True democratic socialism is impossible as long as the United States exists as an imperialist force.

1, That's silly, there's tons of democratic socialist countries that are doing just fine - today! Bolivia, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Canada, the Netherlands, Spain, Ireland, Belgium, Switzerland, Australia, New Zealand - think the US fucks with their way of governing?

2, the USSR was never a type of democratic socialism. Period. They literally called it 'soviet democracy' distinctly, and it meant something WILDLY different that the kinds of democratic socialism we see in the above listed countries.

Your premise is faulty, built upon an imagined soviet union that did not practice the tenants you're endorsing.

I don't think they are socialist democracy but social democracy. There is a distinction. I don't think any country is a socialist country in morden history. There where some movement that were trying to be socialist but it either fell into dictatorship (USSR, North Korea, etc)or it was squashed by USA(Chile, and other central/ south american countries). The most successful one was that of Chile, until US backed coup overthrew the democratically elected government in favour of dictatorship.

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