this post was submitted on 28 Aug 2024
536 points (96.2% liked)

Privacy

31882 readers
548 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

Chat rooms

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago (7 children)

phone number isn't just any metadata; it is the anchoring data around which the rest of metadata is collected, and it is also connected to govt/corporate verified real identity.

why would anyone even claim to offer privacy around such an anchor ?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Exactly, especially when we're talking about the US government that has access to all the data from other large US based media companies like Google and Meta. We know this for a fact thanks to Snowden leaks. Once you have a phone number, you know the identity of the person, and you can trivially cross reference all the other data to see if that person is of interest. And thanks to their Signal connection graph, the government can easily tell what other people they communicate privately with.

[–] zingo@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (5 children)

And thanks to their Signal connection graph, the government can easily tell what other people they communicate privately with.

So what? I'm sure your neighbor couple talk privately to each other most of the time and you know that happens. The important part is that the conversation is private.

Signal is not an anonymous messenger app. It never claimed to be. It's for you to have a private conversation where your device holds the encryption keys.

Not like WhatsApp, where Meta has access to the keys of all conversations. Also 95 % of the worlds population is on WhatsApp, so why don't you go and complain to them for lack of privacy and security?

If you want an "anonymous" chat client they are out there to use. Good luck getting more people onboard other than your savy friend.

[–] mukt@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Signal's use case is "authentic communication". like when a govt person interacts with other govt person and doesn't want a second govt to snoop on the actual contents on the communication, but accepts that metadata is public.

It is whatsapp for such people, without being whatsapp.

But then why would you use whatsapp either ?

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)