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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 205 points 2 months ago (13 children)

This isn't a meme, it's a crime

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 64 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

There are literally tens of thousands of people in academia who could build a transparent, open-source, non-profit publishing system of their own.

Why don't they?

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I don't know about other fields, but we did do this for AI. It's all community-run, papers are freely available for everyone to read, and the cost of submission in a peer-reviewed venue is to review other papers. The publishers don't actually provide anything of value except name recognition and being "reputable", which they maintain through momentum.

[–] xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, could you share some links?

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I might have misunderstood - I thought there would be some journals employing that "review to submit" system you mentioned.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, yes. I just wasn't clear on whether you wanted to know more about the publication venues or about the value of publishers or something else.

In AI, we normally publish in conferences rather than journals. Some of the big ones are

There is a new journal I know of (TMLR) that's becoming a bit more popular in these circles, but I believe they rely solely on volunteers to review rather than asking those who submit papers.

[–] xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, I will be looking into this!

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

If you're still interested in this, CVPR recently made the rule explicit for the upcoming conference.

If they do not serve in another capacity for the organization of CVPR 2025, all authors are obliged to act as reviewers

https://cvpr.thecvf.com/Conferences/2025/CVPRChanges

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