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[–] NIB@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The weirdest thing about this whole antivaxx movement is that it has spread to Europe too. Greece has conscription, so 90%+ of greek males have served in the greek military. And almost all of them got vaccinated with a trillion vaccines, including ones against gozzila(you can never be too safe). And thats on top of whatever vaccines babies usually receive.

Noone complained about it. There was some antivaxx movement before but with covid, everyone went crazy with the vaccines. Suddenly vaccines were evil, noone knew what they had in them, it's a global conspiracy. Everyone became a vaccine expert.

America needs to stop exporting their brain rot, we already have enough on our own.

[–] Saneless@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

No one complained about it because there wasn't a national, or global, effort telling people to blindly rebel against it.

It's the hive mind hardcore right mindset these days. Drum up something for the pawns to run around screaming and they will willingly volunteer their time, money, freedom, and lives so the elites running the movement can retain wealth and power

[–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't blame america, blame the media moguls

not all of them are american, in fact the worst of them is aussie

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Nah mate, he's been American longer than he was ever Aussie, he gave up our citizenship for the greater opportunities he'd have to exploit everyone from the US.

[–] SlowNoPoPo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, so rich people from other countries come to the us to make us look bad

see: elon musk

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Of course they do, the US makes it so easy for them to be a piece of shit and successful.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 8 points 1 year ago

Stupidity, ignorance, and hysteria aren't unique to America. The USA just has the loudest voice in traditional/social media.

[–] Zeppelins@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You say it spread to Europe from the U.S., but it's kind of the other way around. The whole anti-vaxx movement was—although not started—heavily popularized by Andrew Wakefield, a medical scientist who very publicly brought criticism against the MMR vaccine (with an unethical study which lied about the condition of many of his patients) about it potentially causing autism. Remember, not too many years ago being autistic was seen as something so much worse than it is. In the meantime, he was being very privately paid off to produce a study for a lawyer who wanted proof that a certain vaccine could have caused medical complications, so he could win a law suit. There was a huge vaccine scare in Europe about MMR, and eventually it spread to America. However, as the anti-MMR-vaccine idea spread, it grew to become anti-vaccine. Wakefield, now rejected from the scientific community, had little other way to stay afloat financially than by pandering to his audience, shifting his message from anti-MMR to anti-vaxx.

Relevant video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8BIcAZxFfrc (seriously, great vid, please watch if you have the time)

Relevant book: https://www.amazon.com/Doctor-Who-Fooled-World-Deception/dp/1421438003 (seriously, great book, please read if you have the time)

Although if you're talking about COVID vaccine fears, I know much less, it absolutely could have started in the U.S.