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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 244 points 3 months ago (35 children)

Maybe that's not bad for firefox.

Maybe less money means less ridiculous side projects and just focus on delivering a good browser.

Algo the lack of google as financial support means they'll rely more on donations, which would mean that they really need to focus on offering a good browser.

I'll gladly donate to firefox if I would see they are really focusing on it.

[–] SankaraStone@lemmy.world 80 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

Mozilla (not Google) got rid of the side projects, increased the CEO's salary, and laid off a bunch of employees during the pandemic. It basically got rid of the innovation that could have made Firefox a faster, more secure, and pleasant experience. Rust and Rust-based Servo, as a replacement for Gecko, were two of those side projects. These are the things Mozilla needs to invest in.

Also, I think Mozilla needs to ask the user upon install what the default search engine should be from a list of search engines including Google, Duck Duck Go, Bing, and Yahoo. Maybe the order of those could be arranged based on how much they're able to finagle from the search engines.

The real monopoly is their control over Chrome. That's what they should be forced to split from the company that owns the search engine. Development and design of Chrome should not and cannot be done by the company that runs the search engine and gets its revenue from ads.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Development and design of Chrome should not and cannot be done by the company that runs the search engine and gets its revenue from ads.

I'd go so far as to argue the exact same for development of: Operating systems, automotive, smartphones, residential fiber...

The ulterior motive is simply never in a user's best interest when every function ultimately becomes part of the "influence towards the purchase of goods and services" funnel.

[–] SankaraStone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

While I find your assertion inspiring and very worthy of consideration, I have to wonder what the incentive is to sustain Android development. Apple sells the hardware that goes with its OS(es), so they get the hardware revenue (not to mention the App Store and iCloud subscription revenues). They would have to start charging devices to use their operating system or something, and I have to wonder if that would be possible under open source licenses.

I would love an open, sustained, and even open source, secure operating system for phones that's the target of app development. I think the Linux stack should should develop an NPR/PBS type ecosystem public funding of development (with maybe the corporate underwriting of those networks being equivalent to contributions from corporate employed developers to the open source code) and I'd love for it to be a real competitor in the smart phone market (knowing the Android stack modifies and sits on top of Linux).

[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago

I have to wonder what the incentive is to sustain Android development

Cuts from app purchases and in-app purchases. Of course, developers can implement their own payment gateways and distribute their apps in third party stores, but nobody would do this at risk of being removed from play store.

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