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[Classical] Fascism was interesting for a few reasons, some of them being its relationship to the labour movement:

  • ᴉuᴉlossnW was a prominent socialist until their expulsion from the PSI for their nationalist views, and if we take them at their word in their last testament while captured by communists, they considered themself a socialist
  • Fascism managed to bring other former Marxist communists into their ranks, notably Nicola Bombacci, a founding member of the Communist Party of Italy in 1921 until their expulsion for fascist views in 1927
  • Fascism was economically a class-collaborationist ideology (specifically corporativism, from the Latin corpus, body)

Now, of course, we have the benefit of hindsight and can see what a disaster Italian fascism and its friends were and the name of 'fascism' is forever tainted. But theoretically a modern equivalent could similarly appeal to both nationalists and the socialist-leaning today in a similar way. Fascism doesn't logically imply racism, nor does it necessarily exclude certain types of progressivism: see BUF gaining large support from women by being pro-suffrage, see environmentalism of eco-fascists, and consider some modern neofash parties adopting social democrat policy points.

With all this in mind, what were the early warning signs that Fascism was not going to be pro-worker, despite its rhetoric? How well do you believe socialists will be able to spot them?

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[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

We would not get classical fascism. It was a response to a threat of revolution by a strong labour movement in well-industrialized society. Now with deindustrialization and weak labour movement we'll get some new horrors within human comprehension.

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago

We won't get classical fascism, but we should be prepared for an echo of that phenomenon; a (for lack of a better word) pseudo-left compromise supported by the bourgeoisie. While slow, the labour movement is growing (even the Palestinian conflict itself is accelerating union activity where I am) and it's possible it will reignite like in major capitalist crises of the past - they're hard to predict but they're inevitable.

America is already fascist for some time now you're going to have to call it double fascism

[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

It's not useful to consider the USA fascist. If fascism is capitalism in decay, neoliberalism is capitalism in stride.

Where fascism tries to put the state above all, neoliberalism has purchased the state. Where fascism demands our class struggle halt, neoliberalism proudly yells 'keep going; we're winning'. Where fascism has silly bullshit idealism about their nation and its spirit, neoliberalism is cold and individualist, and won't even spare the ruling demographics from its greed.

They're both capitalism and they both want us dead. But we must understand the differences if we want to fight them most effectively. Fascism's weaknesses don't always apply to liberalism, and vice versa.

@comfy@lemmy.ml it is not useful to consider the USA a non-fascist country to just to hype yourself about project 2025. read

Sorry, let me be more blunt. Will it only be fascism when they lynch white people?

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