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Ok but... Let's be real trump didn't cause it, he just made it worse.
Infinitely worse. It’s hard to calculate, but there were countries where they literally had single digit covid numbers during the pre vaccine days, just because they gave the situation the gravity and strictness it deserved
I have a family member who’s in the hospital right now, in a part of the country where practically no one including the hospital staff is wearing a mask. It’s hard to even find them in the hospital to put one on. There are rooms clearly marked with mask and droplet precautions on the outside of the door, and the staff will take a mask from a box next to the door, go inside to deal with that person, and then when they’re done they take their mask back off and go back to walking around treating patients with no mask. What do the people in those rooms have? I don’t know but I can confidently say the hospital is fucking up in a fashion that is actively killing some number of patients and that politics are involved in that.
I am constantly worrying whether Trump’s bullshit will wind up adding my family member, individually and personally, to that 1.5 million surplus deaths
The countries with single digit numbers (total) where pretty small and had no notable industry to keep running, you should measure on Europe and per 1000 or 100000 people.
And everyone fucked up, it was the first real global pandemic with this intensity. As said, Trump made it worse with his BS but it wasn't Trump alone, and a big portion was out of his jurisdiction as well. I hate the guy but you don't need to treat him as evil incarnate, this just makes it worse.
Western Australia had Nine Covid deaths prior to 95% population vaccination. Yes, just Nine.
Then we opened our borders and let Omicron in.
Western Australia has like 50 people living there, the majority lives in Eastern Australia
Also the way it was handled in Australia would have caused a civil war in USA, and was probably not exactly according to human rights standards. I don't say you did a bad job, i say you had other problems and conditions.
Wouldn't it have been easier to just Google "population Western Australia" (2.667 Million in 2020) than to dig up a misleading map that tells an incomplete picture? It's true we are not the most populous state by any means, but you don't need to be insulting with that level of hyperbole.
No matter how you spin it, our pre-Omicron Covid response was nothing short of incredible. While the world suffered, we pretty much nope'd out of the whole thing. I would not be surprised if WA becomes a pandemic response case study in future.
I do agree that the USA probably couldn't pull together enough to put something like that I to action. The USA is anything but united until someone literally invades. It's just a pity they didn't look at the pandemic in a similar light to a foreign invader.
Its not insulting to say that the population density is waaaaaay different then USA or Europe, wich i was saying to be able to compare, Australia has also another climate wich impacts the spread of diseases.
And as said each country did something and response to such events has to be individual there is mostly no better or worse way... Except for China that literally fucked themselves over super hard... USA didn't do good but not spectacularly bad compared to others.
The issue with a statement like "the population density is waaaaaay different then USA or Europe", is it shows how unfamiliar you are with the state. Yes, if you average the population over the area of the state, you'll get an absurdly low number.
But that would only make any sort of point if we are spread all over the state evenly. We are not. 2 Million of us live in Perth, which alone covers about 75% of WA's population. And within Perth, our population density is on a par with just about any other mid-sized city. Beyond Perth, about 20% of the remaining 25% are going to be in a collection of half a dozen regional towns. Again, those towns would feel fairly familiar to someone from a small town in lots of places.
The bulk of that area is nothing. Desert and rocks and the very occasional hole in the ground (mining site).
In the regions we live, we aren't that different from other places. What made us different through the pandemic is the policy of closing the border to outsiders. Most places didn't do that. As a result, we mostly lived through 2020 and 2021 without having to worry about Covid 19. A few times, a case got past quarantine, and we had a mini lockdown for a week or so until it was contained. Then, back to normal.