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[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes. You go out to grab a rock, go back in and smash the windows. Or keep one tactical door opening rock beneath the seat.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk -1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

beneath the seat

For the toddler to use?

There is a mechanical door release if you're trapped inside. To get in from outside obviously needs the vehicle to unlock, so it has to be jump started.

Even if there was some kind of back-up mechanical lock I can't see anyone carrying around a key only for this specific eventuality. A glass breaker key-ring might be the best option — along with understanding how to use these emergency features in case you need them. A glass breaker might also save you in a fire or ending up underwater.

[–] iamanurd@midwest.social 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That’s the fun part. They’ve made it so the windows don’t break now either. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6tnEDH1HfD0

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 4 points 5 months ago

These two remind me of the early Apple fanboys, completely talking around all the bad parts and focusing only on perceived good parts. Except, here, they're fan-ing on a decision that was made a long time ago (using tempered glass on side windows) for exactly the reason they state is 'bad'--it explodes into a bunch of non-sharp shards. This decision was made, and agreed upon by auto manufacturers, to prevent people getting stuck in cars on fire. Internal mechanical releases do nothing when the person inside is unconscious or is a toddler, as is in this case.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 2 points 5 months ago

That is fun, I didn't know that was a thing. I imagine that roll-overs are more common than submersion in water, but even so, that doesn't sound like a great trade-off. Even in a crash, being able to quickly jump out the window is good — especially if the vehicle is on fire.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Mechanical release is hidden and not commonly used, or if ever. In moments of utter panic people will not even remember it exists, let alone use it.

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk -1 points 5 months ago

The front ones don't seem to be hidden, but yeah - if they're not meant to be used regularly, people won't remember them in an emergency. I guess the rear ones are hidden because they probably bypass child-locks.

I don't know how child-locks work on mechanical door latches. If the vehicle locks when in motion and the child-locks are on I don't think there are emergency releases on most vehicles? The only ways out would be to get into the front cabin, break the windows, or find the internal boot release.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To get in from outside obviously needs the vehicle to unlock, so it has to be jump started.

and how do you get to the battery to do that if you can't get inside?

[–] Morphit@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago

Well at least there's a way in... Lot's of trouble could be save by simply having a mechanical key.