this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2023
189 points (90.6% liked)

No Stupid Questions

35884 readers
1202 users here now

No such thing. Ask away!

!nostupidquestions is a community dedicated to being helpful and answering each others' questions on various topics.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)


Rule 1- All posts must be legitimate questions. All post titles must include a question.

All posts must be legitimate questions, and all post titles must include a question. Questions that are joke or trolling questions, memes, song lyrics as title, etc. are not allowed here. See Rule 6 for all exceptions.



Rule 2- Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material.

Your question subject cannot be illegal or NSFW material. You will be warned first, banned second.



Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.



Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.



Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Questions which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.



Rule 6- Regarding META posts and joke questions.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-question posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

On fridays, you are allowed to post meme and troll questions, on the condition that it's in text format only, and conforms with our other rules. These posts MUST include the [NSQ Friday] tag in their title.

If you post a serious question on friday and are looking only for legitimate answers, then please include the [Serious] tag on your post. Irrelevant replies will then be removed by moderators.



Rule 7- You can't intentionally annoy, mock, or harass other members.

If you intentionally annoy, mock, harass, or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathiser or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.



Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.



Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.



Rule 10- Majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.



Credits

Our breathtaking icon was bestowed upon us by @Cevilia!

The greatest banner of all time: by @TheOneWithTheHair!

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

They don’t have a brain really and kinda just float there. Do they even feel pain?

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What you are describing is reaction to stimuli. You also describe gas releasing from tomatoes. Plants definitely have some form of biological intelligence but Vegans don't care about that and that's my point. Your comment doesn't address OP's question because what you are talking about has nothing to do with Veganism. This is why I got so dang frustrated. So many of these commenters were not in a position to answer OP's question because they don't know what Veganism is or what Vegans value.

Biological intelligence is not the same as having a subjective experience. If there is no subject, there is no one to grant rights to. There is no one ever experiencing pain or pleasure etc. You could at best take an agnostic position on plant consciousness. As we understand it today, consciousness is an emerging property of life with brains/nervous systems. In any case you are probably and hopefully wholly uncaring of tomatoes being harvested, and in that respect it's hard for me to discern your point of discussion as good faith.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I don't care about tomatoes being harvested any more than livestock being slaughtered, I'm not a vegan.

I find the science behind plant communication fascinating and there's more going on there than we currently comprehend.

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah it's totally fine to be fascinated with the chemical interactions of plants. This just wasn't the thread to bring it up if we're addressing OP's question in good faith.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was responding to your (rather snide, now deleted) comment regarding "idiots in the thread posting about plant intelligence."

There is more going on with plant communication than we give them credit for. Can it be called "intelligence"? Well, not as we currently comprehend it, no. But at the same time, it's not as easily dismissed either.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3489624/

[–] BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I think derailing the thread with bad faith intentions to redefine Veganism and not answering OP's question is pretty idiotic. Mod thought my comment was mean, but idc.