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U.S.-made bomb used in Israeli strike on Rafah that killed dozens, munitions experts say
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You're talking about primaries and I'm talking about presidential generals. I voted Bernie each time in the primaries because I think the DNC establishment is too far right. I personally think Bernie isn't progressive enough, but this is the US.
We're literally in agreement on this part, and I said Biden was morally dubious. Guy's a terrible person and a horrible politician, don't get me wrong. But I'll take Biden over Trump any day, because at least Biden has never incited an insurrection
So, what you meant was Biden loves democracy when the only other option is a fascist?
That's not democracy, which is why the biggest reason people gave in last election or upcoming for voting Biden is "he's not trump".
If the only options for ruler of the planet was me or hitler, and I was a complete fucking psychopath, I'd also call that democracy and say I loved it. But what I would be really saying is I love it when the only other choice besides myself was someone even worse.
That's not democracy, that's nowhere close to it.
Especially factoring in the electoral college and only a handful of states are ever in play.
In the majority of states we already know who gets all their electoral college votes.
This is not a democracy.
Alright, you're just arguing for the sake of it at this point and putting words in my mouth lol. While we're technically in a capitalistic oligarchy, we do have some democratic processes at play. I don't like it, and you don't either. Which is weird because you're seemingly arguing against the only candidate that is actively trying to maintain that semblance of democracy. Trump has actively tried to undermine this semblance of democracy in each of the recent elections, even in the election he won.
Let's circle back for you. Biden is the lesser evil of the two. When these are your only realistic choices in our current system, there's only one that's obvious. Campaign for structural reform and for politicians that want to reform and improve the system we have.
I used to make the same arguments but I’m middle aged now, have been supporting the left, volunteering, knocking on doors, donating, etc. for over 20 years now; but in all that time, shit has only gotten worse. I’m saddened every day what I’m leaving my children and it makes me feel awful to know that they will be fighting all the same fights I have and even more. I’m definitely no turnip supporter but I no longer believe that there will be any functional difference regardless of who wins. The ship is going down no matter who is captaining.
I would hold my nose and vote once again but even the best possible outcome is still a shit sandwich I’m not willing to take another bite of. So, I’m out, and yes, I do know that’s what they want, I just don’t care anymore.