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Proton Pass open source password manager is now available on F-Droid (proton.me)

submitted 7 months ago by pro_grammer@programming.dev to c/opensource@lemmy.ml

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[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I use both and am afraid that I will lose the passwords in Proton Pass as Its a service they can restrict me of.

I should startto copy some accountd that I dont have yet in keepass but keepass is still the master holder

[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 4 points 7 months ago

I'm not really sure what happens if Proton bans your account for any reason but Proton Pass does have offline access. I assume if you turn off internet access, you can still get all your passwords.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is that not the same risk vith bitwarden too

[–] circular@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Bitwarden has a really nice CLI that lets you backup your vault easily. I personally run bw export --format json --raw every few week so if for some reason I lose the "cloud" access, I can still migrate to self hosted or a different password manager. (Or you may choose to self-host to begin with)

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 7 months ago

Great to know!

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The danger with self hosting is that police can always steal everything from you.

Felt weird hearing story of my ex that the german customs office just stole their Laptop and Phone. She couldn't show me pictures and she hadn't any backups or smth.

I am afraid this could happen to me too when they suspect something but are wrong at the end. At the entire time I will not have access to my drives of my server and maybe they accidentally break them. Not sure if they will believe me that its a raid 1, I can imagine them stealing everything without questioning.

[–] chebra@mstdn.io 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@ReakDuck @circular

If you follow the 3-2-1 backup strategy then this should not be a problem. Backups are an essential part of self-hosting.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how to comfortable sync a 2TB drive and take it with you.

Additionally. I dont do backups. I only sync devices. Except for Phone pictures which are uploaded and deleted from the phone. I think there should be a second device that keeps data

[–] chebra@mstdn.io 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@ReakDuck

> I dont do backups

Well then... there is nothing good coming out of that decision. Good luck, lol.

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder how I should design backups as large as 2TB. I would love to have something outside of my Home that does backups, but doing this remotely seems overkill.

But you are giving me the potential to think about it and redesign my insecure data that may dissappear someday.

[–] chebra@mstdn.io 1 points 7 months ago

It all depends on how much you treasure that 2TB of data. If you cannot afford to lose it, then you don't really have any other option. All I'm saying is that self-hosting and backups go hand in hand. Self-hosting without backups is just asking for trouble. But what you are talking about sounds more like 2TB of old photos, that's not really self-hosting. Just get a second 2TB drive and copy it there. This thread started with talks about password managers and their backups - those aren't 2TB.