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This is interesting, thank you. So... I'm guessing we don't really want wild plants to gain this ability? We really want to control this ability? What would happen if all plants gained this ability -- would we have any nitrogen left in the atmosphere? I'm guessing we personally (as a species) need the current mixture of air compounds to be a certain way (the way it is now, pretty much) in order not to be poisoned? I've heard about oxygen poisoning -- that's a thing, right?
Or we might want to have some plants gain this ability in order to do terraforming of another planet which has mainly nitrogen in its atmosphere, very far into the future? Would be cool. Maybe.
The N2 in the atmosphere go through a lot of conversions in the bacteria and plant but eventually ends up as nitrates which then break down and release N2 back in the atmosphere.
So no we won't end up with no nitrogen in the atmosphere. Generally we want more nitrogen fixed as most crops deplete the nitrogen and only crops that host the nitrogen fixing bacteria can replenish the fixed nitrogen in the soil.
This is the main reason for crop rotations. Farmers grow corn that depletes the fixed nitrogen and then soy that has bacteria that replenishes it.
It would be great if corn got that feature as a lot of fossil fuels are used to fix nitrogen for fertilizers. See the Haber process for more info. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haber_process
There's a variety of maize that does fix nitrogen:
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2018/08/amaizeballs/567140/
There are some political and technical hurdles to adapting it more broadly to the agricultural industry.
Fun fact, one half of the invention of the Haber Bosch process Fritz Haber also invented chemical warfare.
He's partially responsible for saving perhaps billions of lives through the Haber Bosch process and killing millions through the use and proliferation of chemical weapons.
We did get this banger out of it though
So long as he's net positive, eh..? 🥹
Thank you for sharing all this insight! Cheers!
Oh wow, didn't even think about that. It'd be like the great oxygen event which almost killed all life in earth https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Oxidation_Event