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What's your experience with Electron alternatives (lemmy.ml)

submitted 7 months ago by LemmyHead@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Electron is a widely hated framework on Linux, but what about the alternatives like Neutralinojs?

In their own words: In Electron and NWjs, you have to install Node.js and hundreds of dependency libraries. Embedded Chromium and Node.js make simple apps bloaty — in most scenarios, framework weights more than your app source. Neutralinojs offers a lightweight and portable SDK which is an alternative for Electron and NW.js. Neutralinojs doesn't bundle Chromium and uses the existing web browser library in the operating system (Eg: gtk-webkit2 on Linux). Neutralinojs implements a secure WebSocket connection for native operations and embeds a static web server to serve the web content. Also, it offers a built-in JavaScript client library for developers.

Do you experience alternatives like Njs to blend more in the desktop layout, install less junk, use less memory, are more compatible with Wayland,...?

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[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (8 children)

You can't get a website working as a "native" application with Qt, which is exactly what is Electron's goal.

[–] nyan@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Which is why Electron reminds me of a little kid who's just done some extremely difficult but utterlly pointless thing.

Websites belong in a browser. If it doesn't work in any random standards-compliant browser, then you should be delivering it as a true native application, not some horrific fiji-mermaid-esque hybrid.

[–] moreeni@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

You are talking as if all people can make a native app with the same knowledge and amount of effort as it would take to develop a website.

Sometimes, web developers would want to go further with their app and deliever "native" functionality. Sometimes, a person wants to build an app but only happens to know how to build a website.

It's a much more complicated matter than just some idiots deciding "let's build an utterly pointless thing and then let other idiots build horrific fiji-mermaid-esque hybrids!!".

https://asylum.madhouse-project.org/blog/2018/10/26/Walking-in-my-shoes/

[–] winnie@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago

Then they shouldn't! Just give users website and be done with it.

Now you can even allow websites work offline and install them "like" an app with proper manifest.

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