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Shell Is Immediately Closing All Of Its California Hydrogen Stations | The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here.::The oil giant is one of the big players in hydrogen globally, but even it can't make its operations work here. All seven of its California stations will close immediately.

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[-] CaptainProton@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

No they've just been subsidizing an inferior technology (batteries might be better if we had room temperature superconductors, plus the hurdles for hydrogen are so much smaller and it doesn't rely on digging hundreds of millions of tons of rare earth metals out of the ground just to replace all the vehicles on the road today)

[-] bwrsandman@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

No, hydrogen just requires processing methane. How superior!

[-] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Only cheaper in small volumes, not in every car everywhere volumes.

You can use the same electricity you'd use to charge an electric car to separate water, but basically you're saving the problem of having to deliver that power to every supercharger station at the time of your convenience, which is the biggest hurdle.

I live in the area with the most electric cars of anywhere and our power costs have passed the point where $6/gallon gas in a regular car is actually cheaper per mile than charging a Tesla.

ALL the power infrastructure needs to be replaced to handle multiples higher demand just to keep up.

[-] nadir@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You can use the same electricity you'd use to charge an electric car to separate water,

With a huge power loss, even if you just look at the hydrogen production and not the transport, storage and maintenance of the specialised facilities necessary to distribute it.

Hydrogen is super inefficient compared to electric vehicles.

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