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[–] Shepstr@feddit.uk 24 points 9 months ago (25 children)

Jesus, lemmy is full of hate

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 77 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I have 0 sympathy for monarchial families living off the backs of UK taxpayers for... Centuries :|

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yea, I don't wish death upon the guy but come on, get a job now

[–] ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol 24 points 9 months ago (15 children)

As an American, if I got cancer like this dude has, having a job there is a very high chance I'd be destitute IF I lived. World class medical treatment off the backs of his subjects.. yeahno my dude, worlds smallest violen playing.jpeg

He can wipe his cancer tears up with whatever the largest denomination of pounds you guys use is xD

[–] Meowoem@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But he's British and we have a good NHS so that's kinda a weird argument

I hate the royal family but for reasons that many sense

[–] Scribbd@feddit.nl 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

And when a president gets COVID he gets drugged up and gets the best treatment on the taxpayers dime. While the people are left with life shattering medical debt.

While these subjects can get medical treatment, for just a fraction, and no debts... Like the king...

So what is your point?

We have been playing the whole sad orchestra for you guys, seeing you push out this attitude like it is a win over something.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 9 months ago

Prime Minister : President :: Royalty : Kardashians

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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago

i mean we have the nhs in the uk, so it's not really the same as the us since everyone here has access to the nhs

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is hating monarchies not natural? What gives someone the right to rule over others just because of their bloodline?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

I mean, having some water nymph toss a sword at someones feet is at least as good of a justification for governmental power - and if I'm honest, a better one at that.

It's like 40% more creative than "I have all the money and the big boogey man in the sky said I have the right to reign supreme - who are you to question God?"

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago

royals are for guillotines

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 28 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Please for the love of anything you love stop crying for monarchists and bring back the guillotine. For FUCKS SAKE YOU'RE LITERALLY THINKING LIKE A MIDDLE AGES SERF. GOD EMPEROR SHIT RIGHT HERE

If any of you fucking liberals ever say ANYTHING about communist countries having cults of personality I'm going to haul ass and personally take shits inside your house that will leave you confused for years to come

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

I came here to say: Good take

[–] veng@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

....Cup of tea, sir?

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[–] DefinitelyNotAPhone@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

I'm begging liberals to remember the one cool thing they ever did, which was chopping off their monarchs' heads, and commit to that. Just that. Come on now, this is an argument that's been solved for like 200 years now: monarchs and aristocrats are dogshit and deserve to be forcibly removed from their positions of wealth and authority.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Imagine simping for an inbred German shambling corpse.

[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Totally out of the loop on UK royalty, because they're basically just a medieval version of the Kardashians that's hung around waaaaay too long.

I was under the impression that the monarchy's power was predicated on their right to rule being divine, which could only be maintained by keeping their bloodline ~~inbred~~ pure.

Charles is German?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Charles is German?

I wouldn't say he is German, but German dynasties have sit on the British throne since George I was crowned in 1714. Up till queen Victoria all monarchs belonged to the house of Hanover. Victoria married Albert of house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and their son Edward VII was counted as the member of that dynasty. Edward's son George V changed their surname to "Windsor" in 1917.

And i imagine that the house of Saxony which part house Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is, is pretty inbred since basically every surviving european noble today is either part of it or closely related.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Queen Victoria is from the House of Hanover and Prince Albert is from the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The British royal family changed their house to Windsor during WWI because the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha sounded too German.

If you're going by just family ancestry, Charles III is mostly German. Here's me after wasting time on Wikipedia:

Maternal grandfather's grandparents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_VII: Anglicized German

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_of_Denmark: Danish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis,_Duke_of_Teck: Austrian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Mary_Adelaide_of_Cambridge: German

Maternal grandmother's grandparents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Bowes-Lyon,_13th_Earl_of_Strathmore_and_Kinghorne: English

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Bowes-Lyon,_Countess_of_Strathmore_and_Kinghorne: English

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Cavendish-Bentinck_(priest): English

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisa_Cavendish-Bentinck: English

Paternal grandfather's grandparents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_IX_of_Denmark: Danish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_of_Hesse-Kassel: German

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duke_Konstantin_Nikolayevich_of_Russia: Russian Romanov, but he had 3 German grandparents, so his ancestry is mostly German

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alexandra_of_Saxe-Altenburg: German

Paternal grandmother's grandparents:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Alexander_of_Hesse_and_by_Rhine: German

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia,_Princess_of_Battenberg: Pole of German descent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_IV%252C_Grand_Duke_of_Hesse: German

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Alice_of_the_United_Kingdom: German

[–] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Thank you for the hardcore wiki linking - sincerely, I appreciate the labor you put into this reply.

C3 is a certified Deutsch.

Wild that they could just... Change their house like that. "Oh all that family lineage and history, no, no the name sounds quite too much like those jerries - the peasants won't like it much - what now? yes yes, Windsor we are, always have been, chip cheerio - get in the trench my good chap, and fight my former brethren, I mean those awful germans."

[–] Shepstr@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

Who did what now?

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you want a list of the atrocities committed by the English monarchy?

Hate for this family is deserved

[–] aairey@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'm listening ... 🍿

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I dislike the royals, but ultimately any person suffering with cancer is deserving of sympathy.

[–] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I kind of think you'd have a different tune if this were Putin to be honest, wanna talk about why? In my mind, all of the appeals to civility are just status quo worship veiled in "human decency" that 1) doesn't consider the good that would be brought to the world by his passing and 2) isn't extended to anyone outside of the status quo power structure.

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 7 points 9 months ago

If Putin, Xi or {designated USA enemy} had cancer, fucking westerners would throw 7 days of celebrations

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

for this guy, who leeches off the work of real human beings and hides child rapists from justice? absolutely, my hate for him is a source of strength and pride, I'm glad to have it on display.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the news and world news subs really took a tumble of late. I came for some modicum of intellectual debate, but it's a shame how quickly that derails.

[–] Shepstr@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Most subs seem to be afflicted.

[–] Guntrigger@feddit.ch 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It depends very much on what instance the thread is on.

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