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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (28 children)

I think a lens worth looking at that suggests this is a misstep is:

  • Apple has only ever convinced people to bring a new device with them once, with the iPod.

    • They realized that a wallet sized device that could playback your entire music collection would be a huge hit, and convinced people to effectively carry around a second wallet (plus headphones). This was the first and only time they convinced people to carry around a new device on a daily basis, and it was relatively easy since jeans had two front pockets anyways.

    • Around the same time, cell phones started also filling the role of second wallet, for a period, some of us even carried around 3 wallet sized devices. Then the iPhone just combined two of them (eventually all 3 kinda).

    • Macbooks / laptops, are basically just the equivalent of textbooks in our bookbag, iPads are just a fancier version of that book that can also work with a pencil. Apple Watch just replaced our regular watches. No other Apple product (or anyone else's for that matter) have convinced us to carry a wholly new form factor of device around with us.

      • The Vision Pro replaces .... nothing ... like the iPod it's a wholly new device to carry with you, but unlike the iPod the form factor is not a natural extension or replacement of an existing form factor. The closest they come is glasses, and this is what I think Google Glass got right, they aimed at a form factor that could be worn like glasses all day without too much distinction, whereas the vision pro is more like a pair of heavy ski goggles. It's a hard and uncomfortable ask to get people to wear it in almost any scenario.
[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (10 children)

Why in the world do you think this is supposed to be a mobile product? Just because it can run on a battery doesn't mean they intend for consumers to wear it around town.

My impression is that it's for use in the home and/or office. I wouldn't walk around town with anything worth thousands of dollars out on display and I think most people are similarly minded.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago (9 children)

What purpose does it serve in an office that your MacBook doesn't?

[–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What purpose does a MacBook serve that an office from the 1980’s wasn’t equipped to handle?

AR devices in an office serve the same purpose as existing tools, but there are ways that they can improve efficiency, which is all the justification office tech needs. Shit, my monitor costs 2/3 the price of the Vision Pro, and an ideal piece of AR hardware would be immeasurably better. Meetings in virtual space would negate how much meetings suck remotely. Having unlimited screen real estate would make a huge difference in my line of work. Also, being able to use any area in my home or out of it with as much screen real estate as I want would be huge.

I’m not saying that the Vision Pro does all of those things, but it does some of them, and I’m 100% okay with it being the thing that introduces the benefit of AR to those without imagination.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Shit, my monitor costs 2/3 the price of the Vision Pro

Two professional 27" 4k dell monitors cost ~$800 combined. You overpaid like a mf if you spend $2000 on a monitor.

and an ideal piece of AR hardware would be immeasurably better

Let me know when someone announces one.

Meetings in virtual space would negate how much meetings suck remotely

Lol, citation needed.

Having unlimited screen real estate would make a huge difference in my line of work.

Agreed, as long as using those screens didn't require wearing a pair of ski goggles that will die after 2 hours.

Also, being able to use any area in my home or out of it with as much screen real estate as I want would be huge.

An understandable point... I would argue that it's a much better practice for your mental health to have a dedicated space that you work to create a clear mental separation between home and work but it may work if that space is virtual.

and I’m 100% okay with it being the thing that introduces the benefit of AR to those without imagination.

Those benefits don't take imagination they just take having seen a sci Fi movie in the past 20 years.

[–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Two professional 27" 4k dell monitors cost ~$800 combined. You overpaid like a mf if you spend $2000 on a monitor.

Sorry, but you don’t understand the needs of the market that we’re talking about if you think that a pair of ~$400 dell monitors is equivalent to a high-end display. The difference between $800 and $2500 amounts to a few days’ worth of production for my workstation, which is very easily worth the huge difference in color accuracy, screen real estate, and not having a bezel run down the middle of your workspace over the 3-5 years that it’s used.

blah blah blah

I already said that I’m talking about the Vision Pro as a first step in the direction of a fully-realized AR workstation. As it currently stands, it’s got some really cool tech that’s going to be a lot of fun for the guinea pig early adopters that fund the development of the tech I’m personally interested in.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

blah blah blah I'm an Apple fan boi who will project whatever sci fi utopia I have in my head onto an over priced Quest Pro if it has an Apple Logo.

[–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dude the last thing I needed for my “talking to an idiot online” bingo card was “(ignores point) aPpLe fAnBoY”

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Dude the last thing I needed for my “talking to an idiot online” bingo card was “Dude the last thing I needed for my “talking to an idiot online” bingo card was “(ignores point) aPpLe fAnBoY””

[–] jemorgan@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I’m actually laughing over here, that was pretty good.

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