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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 115 points 9 months ago (24 children)

I think the difference with the first 5 is that a manufacturer sets the price, scalpers purchase it by that price and sells it at a much higher one.

The house price just fluctuates continuously and when the "investor" or "scalper" purchases it, it was available at that price for everyone (or did he purchase it from another scalper?)

Yes, the problem is the high prices of houses, but to reduce it we need to either increase supply (encourage building more, perhaps changing zoning laws to allow more homes etc) or reduce demand (increase interest rates (that though make it harder for regular people), restricting corporations from purchases, banning Airbnb (yes, they drive prices up, and if you use them, you are contributing to it), penalizing if unit is not occupied (though enforcement of this will be hard), or banning foreign investors.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

restricting corporations from purchases, banning Airbnb (yes, they drive prices up, and if you use them, you are contributing to it), penalizing if unit is not occupied (though enforcement of this will be hard), or banning foreign investors.

Agreed, we should be doing all of those things. Corporations should not be able to own any kind of housing at all, and multi unit buildings should be under non-profit co-ops.

And to penalize unoccupied housing, we should have a georgist taxation system.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only time it makes sense for me for a corporation to own a residence is if they have a need to put up their own employees in that area regularly, or if I needed a manager living on site (like some storage facilities have). Corporations should not make their money renting or buying/selling single family homes.

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I don't think there are enough such edge cases for it to make sense for it to be legal.

If a corp needs an employee to be that close, then they should hire local, and/or rotate staff.

At a bare minimum, I agree, no corp should profit off of housing.

[–] throwwyacc@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I'd agree that corporate ownership is necessarily bad If you want to rent an apartment because you don't want to buy into a co-op then how do you go about this? Someone needs to own the apartment to rent to you Personally I don't mind if that initial investment comes from a person or a corporation

[–] explodicle@local106.com 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Could you rent from the co-op at cost without buying into it?

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's how a lot of co-ops works. Or maybe it's called non-market rental. I don't remember the exact name but it's definitely a thing.

Either way, landlord parasites are not needed.

[–] throwwyacc@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who are you paying? Other owners of the apartment? So they put in extra up front so they can rent to you? If so do you get to pay back their initial investment over time? If it's non profit does that mean they can't take anything in excess of what they paid or do they get payed x amount over the top?

I'm fine with co-ops generally but when it comes to rentals I just don't see how you'd make a "not for profit" rental But I mean if someone wants to set one up and prove me wrong that'd be cool. In theory nothing is stopping them

[–] explodicle@local106.com 1 points 9 months ago

I was actually asking a question. So anyhoo I just Googled it and it's called a "zero equity co op" if you're curious.

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