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I haven't seen it. Were those actresses really good in that film?
Greta was the director and reason the film was made as it is, I feel like she deserves the nomination.
I've seen people arguing Robbie should have gotten a nomination but I feel like "best actor" is such a crowded award that people get snubbed all the time.
I agree. If anyone of the three of them- Gosling, Robbie and Gerwig deserves an Oscar, it's Greta Gerwig. And women do not win enough Oscars outside of gendered categories anyway.
We should not put any restrictions, quota, or actions that would artificially raise someone above anyone else for an award. If the awards are for artistic merit, then that should be the criteria in which the categories are judged.
There is a big difference between encouraging more female directors to be nominated and some sort of artificial thing. Greta Gerwig made the highest-grossing film in Warner Bros' 100-year history. She absolutely deserves to be nominated for best director on that alone. But she wasn't.
If you want to rank movies by their box office success, you can just... you know, read the list of highest grossing movies of the year.
Do you think maybe the highest-grossing movie for Warner Brothers ever, not just the year, might be because of the direction? Shouldn't that be considered? Consideration isn't winning.
No it shouldn't. The direction of a movie should be considered on its own merit, not based on its financial success.
Isn't financial success a measure of merit?
No
Why not? Bad movies don't make that much money.
That's a bold statement. The seventh Fast and Furious movie made more money than Barbie. Does that mean it's necessarily not bad? Does that mean it deserved a nomination for best direction? I sure don't think so. Do you think The Super Mario Bors. Movie also deserved the nomination? It made almost as much money as Barbie, after all.
Were those movies also critical successes that were nominated for best picture? Because Barbie is. Just not best director.
Only seven women have ever been nominated for best director in Oscar history. Only three have won. So do you think men are just naturally better movie directors or do you think sexism might possibly be at play here?
So it's not about money, it's about critical success now? I stand by what I wrote, the direction should be judged on its own merit, not by how much money the movie made, or how many memes it spawned, or any other irrelevant criteria.
And of course there has been, and still is, sexism at the Oscars. And if you want to make the argument that the direction of Barbie is good enough to merit a nomination, I'm not standing in your way, it's a fine movie. I think the others deserve it a bit more, except for Zone of Interest, which I haven't had the chance to see yet, but that is subjective.
What I am vehemently disagreeing with, is your original argument, that, while not exclusively because of it, Gerwig should've gotten the nomination based on the financial success alone.
Was it well directed though? Subjective. I personally don't see much in the way of a directorial effort that's worth a golden statue, but it's competently put together. Her being the primary creative force behind the movie isn't criterion in which I would nominate anyone for Best Director.