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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Putin sees civilians as an inconvenience that get in the way of his goals. For Netanyahu, it seems as though killing the civilians is the goal

Yes exactly, that was basically my point, that Israel is actively attacking civilians almost exclusively (it feels like to me anyway).

[–] stevehobbes@lemy.lol -5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

If that were actually true, deaths would be several orders of magnitude higher. They have the munitions and capability to kill significantly more people.

Bottom line is that anytime you conduct war in a dense urban area, or conduct a ground assault in a populated area, civilian casualties will be high.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Your downvotes remind me of the Reddit hive mind. But you are obviously 100% correct and anyone over the age of about 25 knows it.

It has been almost 3 months since the Hamas terrorist attack. If Israel was trying to kill as many civilians as possible, as you said, the death toll would be orders of magnitude higher.

So many people commenting here have no sense of historical perspective at all. I see people using words like "astounding" and "world record" and "genocide" to describe the death toll in this conflict. It's hard to know where to start with that level of historical ignorance.

[–] stevehobbes@lemy.lol 1 points 10 months ago

I should know better than to get sucked into this. But you’re right. I’ve been repeatedly told the most complex and longest lasting conflict in history is “simple”. Should stick to Israel bad / Palestine good, communists good / capitalists bad, no one likes nuance or shades of gray here.

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