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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (4 children)

There are better weapons though. Also, shooting people who are trying to evacuate through your lines is generally considered bad. Compressing the population into a smaller area that you're using 2,000 pound bombs in is also bad.

Nobody is expecting zero civilian causalities, but this is obviously the most inept army or a professional army conducting a genocide.

[–] stevehobbes@lemy.lol -1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But if it were a professional army conducting a genocide as you allege, wouldn't they be much better at it? This is where I keep coming back to.

I would agree with "professional army that is ranking military value significantly higher than minimizing civilian casualties" but that isn't genocide.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They don't have to be doing it systematically to be doing it. And participation would still likely vary between units. It's an extremely difficult thing to do psychologically. So some units are pulling all the military age men out to shoot and others are just shooting whoever they happen to see that's not in an IDF uniform. Both are genocidal acts.

[–] stevehobbes@lemy.lol 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

OK.... so any war crime is genocide now? It really feels like we're broadening the definition substantially. And don't get me wrong - war crimes are awful and should be prosecuted. But calling them all genocide feels.... dilutive to systematic extermination of a people.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Taken alone, no. But those are just two examples, of many to choose from, to show how genocide doesn't necessarily mean trains and ovens.