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[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

I don't think this was a smart Move to mix these two issues. Israel & Palestine are so extremely polarizing and mixing this with climate might divide the People and weaken the fight for a green future. For example I would rather avoid that topic. I don't know enough about Palestine/Israel to publicly debate it. And if my climate-rally somehow turns to pro Palestine or pro Israel I would rather abstain from visiting it. Because I dont have a solid View on this topic. And I think I might not be alone with this feeling.

[–] Nevoic@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Activists don't need to be one-track minded. They rarely are. I'm a vegan, socialist, anti-fascist who is against the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and for climate justice globally. There's very strong overlap in these positions. There's a reason you won't find a lot of Republican vegans, or pro-Israel socialists.

Yes, sometimes people don't put in the time to investigate these issues, and I commend you for knowing the limits of your own knowledge, I've recommended to people before that it's better to just say "I don't know enough about this issue" instead of arriving at an under-researched position. However, it's not necessary to criticize people who are actually activists, learn about these issues, and go out into the world and advocate for change, so long as they're advocating for the right thing.

The topic being brought up might ostracize people, but it will also put the topic into people's minds. People like you might not know what the correct position is here, but you hear the constant pro-Israel propaganda pumped out by the U.S and might arrive at a subconscious conclusion that aligns with the imperial core.

If you hear people speaking out against the apartheid state of Israel, especially people who align with your values, you might be inclined to look into it more, or at the very least not automatically accept U.S propaganda on the issue.

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Again. It creates divergence and weakens the awareness for the core Issue of this specific rally and might drive people away from it.

EDIT: Btw. it's pretty bold of you to assume you know what "the right thing" is especially on such an highly complex and diverse topic like Israel/Gaza.

[–] SubtleEvolution@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 year ago

It's not bold to declare apartheid a horrible injustice. The commenter above isn't claiming perfect knowledge or even prescribing a solution, they're condemning an atrocity.

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