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Targeting the Teacher
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Or you know, we could only give guns to people that really really need them instead of making a hobby out of it
Ehhhh maybe it's my American showing, but I've known lots of hobbyist clay shooters that are responsible, great people. Not to mention that hunting is more than a hobby to many; it's a way of life. I don't think we should police hobbies to that degree. Much moreso, we should have initial and updated background checks on gun owners.
Is every hobbyist clay shooter a good person? Is their hobby worth the lives of innocent people? Not to mention how easy it is to snap and turn bad. It sucks for the good hobbyists but idc if it means less dead children, they can shoot clay with bbs.
Background checks simply don't work well enough to catch everyone. Mental health issues are hard to spot, it's not like you can just do a blood test.
Honestly, there are soooo many ways to entertain ourselves in our society, people that center their whole lives around guns need to grow the fuck up imo. Fuck the hobby.
I believe the quote goes, "Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."
I get the essence of that quote but I feel it falls apart under any scrutiny. Drunk driving laws are widely agreed to be a good idea but that would fall until the category of sacrificing liberty.
And there is exactly where a libertarian's entire argument falls apart. Rational people obviously know such words are idealistic and hyperbolic, and would ostensibly craft laws to balance personal liberties and public safety. The thing is, there's a cold truth behind it that is important not to forget or ignore. It hints at the slippery slope of regulation into oppression, and that's a very real danger to us today as much as it was back then.
No one talks about the slippery slope in the other direction where lack of regulation leads to weekly mass murders. Of course there's no actual evidence of either of those outcomes happening, right? Right?
How do you figure? As far as I can tell, that conversation happens all the damn time. Not among anyone who SHOULD be having it, but I hear it happen all the time regardless. But you knew that... Same as you knew that there's an abundance of evidence to prove your sarcasm is seriously unfounded because there's PLENTY of evidence of both of those things being a thing. I'm beginning to believe that some people are intentionally creating straw man arguments and being deliberately hyperbolic while presenting their arguments as rational and balanced. Weird.
But we all already sacrifice our liberty for security constantly. I sacrifice my liberty to bite anyone I want, in order to live in a society where I’m unlikely to be bitten.
it is illegal to bite someone. It is also illegal to shoot someone. unless you are talking about a tooth ban, this does not apply.
I gave up my freedom by deciding to follow laws. You don’t have to. There are consequences, but if you decide to disappear into the wilderness and avoid people, you can do whatever you want