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Australian national broadcaster ABC has projected three states voted No, effectively defeating the referendum.

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[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 37 points 1 year ago (80 children)

Man, I didn't know Australia was full of idiots. There was absolutely no reason to vote no to this. It was simply a group that would give feedback to the Australian Senate. Feedback from a marginalized group of the land you stole. Feedback that could simply be ignored by the Senate. It was simply giving that group a voice. How you could vote against that, I have no clue.

[–] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (31 children)

There was absolutely no reason to vote no to this.

Of course there was. Enshrining different rights to different people in the constitution based on their race, is fundamentally objectionable.

[–] ravenford@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Like enshrining the position of head of state as being the next in line for a particular family who are born & live on the other side of the world?

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For the love of democracy let's not fuck that one up again next time it comes around. Based on yesterday the next PM may well be one of our most evil statesmen around. I think the ARM is planning for a 2027 republican referendum... please let's not elect a skilled reactionary to lead our country when the time comes.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Judging by the way the vote went in previous libs, now teal seats, it may be more likely he's cemented his status as unelectable.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 year ago
[–] JustSomePerson@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That is entirely irrelevant. "The king exists, therefore the constitution should give different rights to regular people based on their race". Disgusting argument.

[–] ravenford@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im pointing out the hypocrisy, not providing an endorsement of monarchy. The Australian constitution has an original sin baked in, so pretending it's a sacred document and not already a biased setup is naive.

[–] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody is proving an endorsement of monarchy. You're using monarchy as an argument for adding (additional) racism to the constitution. It's a fucking stupid argument. "One thing is bad, therefore it is not a problem to make other things worse too."

If something has a flaw (monarchy) that's not a reason to make it worse (enshrine racially based representation).

[–] ravenford@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

There was absolutely no reason to vote no to this.

Of course there was. Enshrining different rights to different people in the constitution based on their race, is fundamentally objectionable.

Your words. I'm simply pointing out the hypocrisy nothing further. The constitution is already in the state you say is fundamentally objectionable, it is not a neutral, equal set of laws. But you draw the line here, when advantage is already enshrined one way. Funny that.

You're pretty rude and divisive in your comments here, you can take negativity too far you know.

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