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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (56 children)

The authors added that OpenAI’s LLMs could result in derivative work “that is based on, mimics, summarizes, or paraphrases” their books, which could harm their market.

Ok, so why not wait until those hypothetical violations occur and then sue?

[–] admin@lemmy.my-box.dev -4 points 1 year ago (17 children)

Because that is far harder to prove than showing OpenAI used his IP without permission.

In my opinion, it should not be allowed to train a generative model on data without permission of the rights holder. So at the very least, OpenAI should publish (references to) the training data they used so far, and probably restrict the dataset to public domain--and opt-in works for future models.

[–] Aezora@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

I don't see why they (authors/copyright holders) have any right to prevent use of their product beyond purchasing. If I legally own a copy of Game of Thrones, I should be able to do whatever the crap I want with it.

And basically, I can. I can quote parts of it, I can give it to a friend to read, I can rip out a page and tape it to the wall, I can teach my kid how to read with it.

Why should I not be allowed to train my AI with it? Why do you think it's unethical?

[–] koljarhr@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago

Ownership is never absolute. Just like with music - you are not allowed to use it commercially i.e. in your restaurant, club, beauty salon, etc. without paying extra. You are also not allowed to do the same with books - for example, you shouldn't share scans online, although it's "your" book.

However, it is not clear how AI infringes on the rights of authors in this case. Because a human may read a book and produce a similar book in the same style legally.

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