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In light of Nexus Mods and Mod DB banning the No Pronouns mod for Starfield, I figured I would look around for alternative sources and collect them in one place for others' convenience. This seems like a good place to put them.

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[–] Eggyhead@artemis.camp 5 points 1 year ago (13 children)

I mean, the absurdity of your argument that a sci-fi space rpg can’t meet your standards of “reality” because of a mere ignorable, pre-existing and commonly used pronoun aside, I’m going to have to step in on this particularly low-hanging morsel…

The rules of English grammar are objective.

If English grammatical rules were objective, we’d all still be talking the way people did way before Shakespeare. Actually, Shakespeare’s writings wouldn’t exist today if English grammar wasn’t at all subjective because he flat out made up a ton of words and phrases we still use today. Also, you’ve heard of poetry, right?

“It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” (Macbeth, Act 5, Scene 5)

[–] firebreathingbunny@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Which grammar rule changed since Shakespeare's time? The reason students can still read and understand Shakespeare's works is that the grammar remains the same. Congratulations, you owned yourself.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Ironically, one of the biggest changes from Shakespeare’s time and now concerned pronouns. We stopped using “thou/thee” as the informal 2nd person and began to only use what had been the formal 2nd person, “you,” and stopped using the verb conjugations for them.

Meanwhile, the 3rd person singular “they” has been in use since Chaucer’s time.

[–] firebreathingbunny@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't even know the difference between vocabulary and grammar. You're dismissed.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My brother in Christ; I’M AN ENGLISH TEACHER.

If you don’t understand how “we lost an entire pronoun and the verb inflection that went with it” is in fact grammar, I don’t even know what to tell you.

[–] firebreathingbunny@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'M AN ENGLISH TEACHER.

Apparently not a very good one, because:

  • You don't know the difference between vocabulary and grammar.
  • You don't know that appeal to authority is a logical fallacy.
  • You don't know what being dismissed means.

Bye.

[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And you, sir, are what my momma likes to call “loud and wrong.”

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