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[-] huge_clock@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Listen, I’m a worker who saved money through my labour. Why should I not get to use my saved labour by deploying it into an investment?

[-] willeypete23@reddthat.com 10 points 1 year ago

Where do you think the value for your return on investment comes from? It's extracted from the labor of workers.

[-] huge_clock@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

It’s not extracted it’s combined with labour to produce higher output than labour or capital on their own.

For example a worker with a shovel could only dig a small hole a day, but with the injection of capital (ie a backhoe) they can dig many more holes. The worker can increase their pay compared to what they would’ve made with just a shovel and the person that provided the backhoe can also generate a healthy return for their capital contribution.

[-] willeypete23@reddthat.com 0 points 1 year ago

Again, capital is extracted from labor. Who do you think built the back hoe? It didn't fall off the back hoe tree. Workers built it, workers designed it. If some capitalist pig didn't own it, then the laborers could just use it.

[-] huge_clock@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Even a labourer who has saved up can buy a back-ho. The backho could have been produced by a communist country or work co-op. Who produced the back-ho is not important.

The important thing is that value is stored, invested and combined with labour to make everyone better off. This is why wages are higher in countries with more capital such as the USA.

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