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Male vs female gaze rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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[-] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did I misunderstand the post?

The point seemed to be that sexualization of men and women is different because not all women like the typical sexualized ~~male~~ man (as per the example given). That being different implies that men do all like the typical sexualized woman. Which is wrong.

(edit: just realized I did a reverse menandfemales)

[-] Crozekiel@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago

I believe you did misunderstand the post.

The post is commenting that both men and women characters in comics are drawn for men. The male characters are aimed at the broad average male power fantasy, not a broad average sexualization that would appeal to women (the way the female characters are drawn for the broad average appeal of men).

When the woman in this comic strip draws Batman in a way that is sexually attractive to her (which is a similar broad strokes "catch as many women as possible" approach comics already use for men), the man in the comic became uncomfortable seeing it. The point is that if they drew male characters in comics with the same approach that they draw female characters, then generally men would feel as uncomfortable by it as women generally feel now.

[-] smollittlefrog@lemdro.id 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the man in the comic became uncomfortable seeing it

I don't understand this point. The reason they're uncomfortable with it is because they're drawn in a sexualized manner? But even if all else is true, men in comics are already drawn in a way that many men think is attractive.

At least that's how I understand the point of the "power fantasy". Or do they mean literal physical strength with the "power fantasy"? Because the sexualization of men is definitely not limited to muscles.

Assuming the power fantasy is not just about physical strength, but also (or only) about extreme attractiveness (as perceived by men):

That is an idea that could be true. Are there statistics about how close the typical male hypersexualization is to women's interests compared to how close the typical female hypersexualization is to men's interests?

[-] Xoriff@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

(as perceived by men)

I think this is the point. It's that both men and women are drawn in a way that attempts to appeal to men and less so what appeals to women (this is what men think ideal-woman looks like. This is what men think ideal-man looks like). This causes side-effects, galore.

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