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MEGATHREAD: whatever the hell is going on in Russia right now (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 year ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

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please post any subsequent updates here unless they're huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don't have to be their own thread

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[–] nob0dy@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (27 children)

Swan Lake

If Moscow stations start playing this, it's a probable sign that the Coup is legitimate and the transition has started. Bonkers to think think that in our lifetime we'd see the collapse of a nuclear power. Even if Putin and his government survive this Coup, I don't think he'll have any political capital left to lead. By 8:00pm EDT, we'll have a pretty good idea who's left standing.

[–] CorrodedCranium@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Hasn't it been stated it's not a coup?

Prigozhin says his aim is "not a military coup but a march for justice" and it comes after a long-running war of words with Russia's military chiefs escalated dramatically.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60947877

I don't know what the difference between that and a march for justice are though.

[–] miket@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

It's all word play, total information control and fog of war; by not attacking Putin directly, they avoid upsetting the Russians that still have total confidence in Putin and maintain that possibility that Wagner could still end up in alliance with Putin anyway, like with Chechens.

Attacking the military talking-heads however, doesn't risk anything, most Russians don't really trust the entire regime anyway, just Putin.

Once Wagner have more and more control of Russia, they can just go after Putin.

This is all speculation on my part tho.

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