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[–] cpjoa@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago (24 children)

I wonder what part of this is supposed to justify Russia's indiscriminate bombing of civilian populations

[–] commiewithoutorgans@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Lolyou think this is "indiscriminate"? Fuck, you should've zeen Fallujah or Vietnam or Korea. Ukraine has so much infrastructure and housing left in perfectly usable conditions. One of my major issues at the beginning was that I expected Russia to be much more violent and have been very surprised at how little of the violence has been on non-combatants

[–] cpjoa@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (20 children)

From what you wrote, do you have a major issue with, in your view, how little violence Russia has inflicted on civilians? Glad that you're disappointed.

My point stands. All that blabber does not justify the acts of Russia.

[–] PandaBearGreen@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No one is justifying the acts of Russia. They should not have invaded! But to act like there is no pretext to conflict and Ukraine is completely innocent is disingenuous. Peace is the better option.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 7 points 1 year ago

All it takes for peace to happen is Russian soldiers turning around and going home.

Also plenty of your fellow hexbear users are justifying the acts of Russia in the comments up above (and down below).

[–] cpjoa@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

I agree with you that peace is a better option, although I'm pessimistic about the outcome of such talks at this point.

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Would you like to live in putin's russia until you die? Because that is what happened to the people in the occupied regions, wheter they like it or not.

(And please don't mention the referendum. Between killed, coerced, exiles and fraud it's a pornographic notion to think you can have a referendum in those conditions.)

The Ukrainian choice here is not peace vs war, that's russia's choice.

Ukrainians' choice here is whether to accept to live in putin's russia by force or to resist his troops' advances by force and a lot of people in your instance believe that it is up to Ukraine to solve the problem that russia created by accepting putin's laws (which I guess nobody in your instance would accept, since you are anti-homophobia etc etc)

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