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With climate change looming, it seems so completely backwards to go back to using it again.

Is it coal miners pushing to keep their jobs? Fear of nuclear power? Is purely politically motivated, or are there genuinely people who believe coal is clean?


Edit, I will admit I was ignorant to the usage of coal nowadays.

Now I'm more depressed than when I posted this

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[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Yes. And even before the Russia mess they were going to replace nuclear with LNG, which is still pretty bad.

[–] luk3th3dud3@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

While in hindsight not all the decisions of the German energy policies seem right and it would have been better to keep the nuclear power plants operating for a few years, there was never the plan to replace nuclear with coal. All of the nuclear power generation has been replaced by wind and solar power generation. In fact, the plan was to phase out nuclear and replace the remaining coal generation with natural gas power plants. This definitely got more difficult in the time of LNG. The plan in any case is to phase out coal as well and with 56% renewable generation in 2023 Germany is on track to do so.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why replace nuclear and not coal though, seems like a pretty stupid choice

[–] luk3th3dud3@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I agree that it would have been better to phase out coal before nuclear power plants, I also think that those decisions have to be viewed in context and are more nuanced than 'pretty stupid'.

For example, as other in this thread pointed out, nuclear power plants can be pretty safe to operate IF there is a good culture of safety and protocols in place. Which of course need to be followed and supervised by a strong regulatory body. Two of nuclear power plants in Brunsbüttel and Krümmel were missing this kind of safety culture in the opinion of the regulatory body. They were both operated by Vattenfall. If you lose trust in the operator of such critical infrastructure, then a decision to shut down nuclear power plants has to factor in all the arguments at hand.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 2 points 1 year ago

That's a fair point

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