Edit: We actually give a shit about all the Ukrainian people being thrown into a fucking meat grinder. We care about their lives. The people who just say “more weapons to Ukraine!” do not give a shit about the lives of the people there. They’re happy to just let the war keep dragging on until the last capable Ukrainian is dead. An example of how WE feel about the tragedy of the situation: https://hexbear.net/post/503747 (hexbear link to a lemmygrad news post)

So be fucking outraged then that Russia started, and is continuing this war. They're the ones killing Ukrainians in their homeland.

A comment from that link:

Omg, it's a full on genocide of Ukrainian people. Just damm the Western libs.... Fuck this planet.

Russia is committing genocide. They've been raping and killing civilians since the start, this is where your anger and energy needs to be. Imagine being outraged at the nation defending itself from genocide, and those countries that are sending the tools that they're being asked for to help defend themselves.

[–] Clippy@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Gaddafi's troops are committing rape to children en masse, they have issued viagra to mass rape people since the start. this is where your anger and energy need to be. Imagine being outraged at the nation defending itself from mass rape, and those countries that are sending the tools that they're being asked for to help defend themselves.

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Here is the UN mandate to intervene in Lybia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1973 a resolution drafted by Tunisia and supported by the African Union, the Arab League and allowed by all of the UNSC.

Where is russia's UN mandate to annex Crimea and to later bomb Kiev? Did they even try?

[–] CamaradeBoina@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Libya today is a haven for islamic terrorism and slaver markets. Regardless of the "legality" of the NATO (mostly french and US led) intervention, it threw the entire region in outright chaos, and was enormously damaging to the working class of Lybia, but also of the entire fucking Sahel.

[–] Gsus4@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yea, in hindsight it would have been better to just let him crack down on the population to keep stability in the region, but with the information we had at the time, most African and Arab neighbours agreed that helping the rebels with a no-fly zond would be better than not to, since the civil war was going to start anyway. You don't care about legality, but that is not the point. The point is that this was not unilateral, like Iraq, and even then military interventions can go terribly wrong.

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