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One prominent author responds to the revelation that his writing is being used to coach artificial intelligence.

By Stephen King

Non-paywalled link: https://archive.li/8QMmu

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[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (15 children)

These are software companies illegally using artists works

There is nothing illegal about what they're doing. You may want it to be illegal, but it's not illegal until laws are actually passed to make it illegal. Things are not illegal by default.

Copyright only prevents copying works. Not analyzing them. The results of the analysis are not the same as the original work.

[–] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

It is illegal. As an artist, if another individual or company wants to use my work for their own commercial purposes in any way, even if just to 'analyze' (since the analysis is part of their private commercial product), they still need to pay for a license to do so. Otherwise it's an unauthorized use and theft. Copyright doesn't even play into it at that point, and would be a separate issue.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As an artist, if another individual or company wants to use my work for their own commercial purposes in any way, even if just to 'analyze', they still need to pay for a license to do so.

I think you need to review the relevant laws, that's not true.

For example, your comment that I'm responding to is copyrighted and you own the copyright. I just quoted part of it in my response without your permission, and that's an entirely legal fair use. I also pasted your comment into Notepad++ and did a word count, there are 64 words in it. That didn't break any laws either.

A lot of people have very expansive and incorrect ideas about how intellectual property works.

[–] RyanHeffronPhoto@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that's an entirely legal fair use

Yet what these companies are doing does not constitute 'fair use', period, no matter how much you want to argue otherwise.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Simply repeating "no it isn't" isn't an argument.

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