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[–] Bnova@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago (111 children)

I got into an argument with a guy on Reddit because he kept insisting that Taiwan was a sovereign nation and I kept telling him that Taiwan does not view Taiwan as a sovereign nation. At one point he asked me if we sold weapons to China and when I said definitionally yes he lost his shit.

[–] diablexical@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (85 children)

A June 2013 poll conducted by DPP showed an overwhelming 77.6% consider themselves as Taiwanese.[140] On the independence-unification issue, the survey found that 25.9 percent said they support unification, 59 percent support independence, and 10.3 percent prefer the "status quo." When asked whether Taiwan and China are parts of one country, the party said the survey found 78.4 percent disagree, while 15 percent agreed. As for whether Taiwan and China are two districts in one country, 70.6 percent disagree, while 22.8 percent agree

Taiwan #1

[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For context: the DPP is the pro-indpendence ultranationalist party founded by local landed elites who collaborated with the Japanese empire during wwii. To this day many Taiwanese ultranationalists around the DPP deny Japanese atrocities such as Nanjing and Unit 731. This may not be the most reliable source, three pinocchios!

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anyone who says they support the DPP is openly saying they support fascists.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

I don't support the DPP, but they are far from being fascists.

[–] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not to defend the DPP, but I find the claim that some people deny the Rape of Nanking hard to believe.

[–] h3doublehockeysticks@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Of course it's a thing. It's huge in Japan, but its also common enough in Taiwan that you get the occasional international scandal when some government dipshit (Most famously Lee Teng-hui) opens their mouth to talk about it.

Edit: oh. But you dont actually give a shit. You're literally just here to start shit

I agree with your sentiment, but we should refrain from using these emotionally charged words. We must remain polite so that people reading this thread will get a bad impression of Hexbear

[–] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you just call Lee Teng-Hui a dipshit?

I will call anyone who calls the nanjing massacre Chinese propaganda a dipshit.

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