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Leaked Zoom all-hands: CEO says employees must return to offices because they can't be as innovative or get to know each other on Zoom::Zoom CEO Eric Yuan discussed the benefits of in-person work in a leaked meeting.

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[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 128 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (31 children)

Why tf do out of touch executives and managers always think that we want to make friends at work? I don't really care to know any of my coworkers, I just want to my job in a professional manner, get paid well for it, and then either go home or close the laptop and leave my home office.

Also the only creativity that the office gives me is how to creatively get around the Internet restrictions they place on us, or how to creatively appear to be working when there's nothing to do.

If I wanted to make friends I'd go to a bar or something else that adults do together in groups, like bowling leagues.

[–] zefiax@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Depends on the type of work. Workshops and strategy sessions are definitely better in person than online for me.

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Okay so what are you getting from either of those that you can't get from attending the same on Teams/Zoom etc.?

Workshops also just feel like school and the presenters always talk too fast, quiet, or accented for my hearing and ADHD to make it worth me going to one, some dedicated study time always was the better route for me.

Meanwhile strategy sesh's are just conversations with an end goal, nothing difficult about that at all.

One thing people who are against work from home have to realize is that not everybody functions the same, some people do better remotely, others need the office.

I just wish we could be treated like adults and work in the way we feel most comfortable and efficiently without being mistreated over it and without being astroturfed against it by entities like the Wall St. journal and Bloomberg, sorry rich people but I just don't give a fuck about your corporate property values.

[–] blockhouse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay so what are you getting from either of those that you can’t get from attending the same on Teams/Zoom etc.?

I don't get the "Bill, we can't hear you; you're on mute" twenty times per hour. Or the guy who doesn't realize he should be muted but isn't, and the chat is flooded with his background noise. I don't get to whisper snarky comments about the presenter to my coworker whom I'm sitting next to. I don't get to spontaneously engage people hanging around the coffee stand between sessions.

There are tangible differences between remote and in-person. As much of an introvert as I am, and as much as I love working remotely, I recognize that I do better collaborative work when I'm in-person. YMMV, but mine doesn't.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does your company not do water cooler sessions for your team? Also you can message people during presentations online to gossip. I just did it yesterday to make fun of some idiotic desperation move our execs are getting ready to pull.

When people say "you can't do X remotely" what they actually mean is they either put no effort into it or they can do it, but it doesn't feel the same to them, which is a completely different statement.

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