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Potentially this means that Fedora and CentOS stream do not get timely updates implemented in RHEL.

Canonical must be throwing a party, and I bet SUSE is not hating it either

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[–] pahakala@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

systemd is one of the best things that has happened with linux. Instead of random shell scripts that work differently on each distro, now you have a single ini conf file for your service that configures automatic restarts, sandboxing and activation in a easy to use way.

[–] bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm so confused as to why people hate systemd.

[–] Wr4ith@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean a core issue is that it doesn't adhere to the unix principle of do one thing and do it well. Aside from that it essentially creates a middle layer where things can happen without you really knowing it's happening. If you haven't I'd suggest running a couple of different init systems to see what I mean.

I'm ambivalent, I like systemd because it's convenient, but I also like openrc because it's simple.

[–] RangerHere@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Same here... I like it a lot.

[–] sarsaparilyptus@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I don't like systemd. Reasons:

  • broad scope and lots of dependencies are more or less the exact opposite design philosophy of *nix

  • putting too many eggs in one basket intrinsically increases the attack vector and also decreases stability

  • bloated

Most importantly:

  • Gives Red Hat i.e. IBM too much influence over Linux
[–] eltimablo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They see all the other stuff that gets packaged under the systemd name and assume it's non-optional. While many distributions do, annoyingly, ship the auxiliary packages like resolved by default, they're not required if you just want to use the init system, and honestly they kind of strike me as an attempt to supplement or replace some of the incumbent components of your average distro.

Systemd-resolved can suck my whole grundle, though.

[–] rustbuckett@mastodon.social 2 points 1 year ago

@eltimablo @SmokeInFog @words_number @vegivamp @bigkahuna1986
"Systemd-resolved can suck my whole grundle, though."

Actual lol, and I agree. I've kinda learned to live with it and to most keep it out of the way, but seriously what a pain.

[–] words_number@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

And I think it sped up booting a lot too by doing more in parallel.