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this thread is wild
can we remember, everyone:
discussion on who is winning has no bearing on discussion of who is in the right, and vice versa
Russia, Ukraine, and NATO can all be evil and wrong for separate and true reasons
criticizing NATO does not amount to supporting Putin
criticizing Putin does not amount to supporting NATO
Can we also remember that Russia is a country and Putin is it's head. You don't even know the name of the top leadership of NATO. You don't say this is Biden's proxy war but you imagine every single decision is Putin's.
And also, stop psychologizing world leaders as though you have a parasocial relationship with them.
Jens Stoltenberg is the Nato top guy, some Norwegian. Commited anticommunist, also I never voted for NATO membership, noone did, in fact there was never even a choice.
Norwegian here. We are a country filled with the most mediocre people, and Jens is the most mediocre Norwegian ever.
The fact that he holds top office in NATO tells you everything you ever needed to know about that dogshit organization.
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