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[–] kebabslob@lemmy.blahaj.zone 68 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I say I have to agree. Leftist infighting is cringe AF. Disagree w/ people all you want, but gatekeeping and name calling is just silly

[–] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 99 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I think it's reasonable to want to have a space that's free from people that defend authoritarian regimes. From my perspective, at least, 196 has always been a more anarchist-oriented space, and I think it makes sense to try to preserve that.

I'd also make the distinction that they are not banned from this forum, in the same way that libs are not banned from posting on their instance -- but those that post there are generally met with hostility, and that preserves the character of their space. I don't see why we shouldn't do the same.

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Not to mention that this sub is unapologetically pro LGBT while practically every authoritarian government (including particularly those that tankies support) has been anti LGBT. eg, China prohibits same sex marriage and adoption, while forcing trans people to get permission from their family to transition (spoiler alert: they ain't progressive).

Democratic socialism with actual equality for all (which goes hand in hand with the root issue socialism is supposed to solve) makes sense and is reasonable. But that's not what tankies support. They're defined by support for authoritarian states that have nothing to do with equality except pretending that they care about it.

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Someone's missed the boat on Cuba's new constitution.

AES literally more based than the United States.

I'll leave my emojis below:

spoilerfidel-balling fidel-cool they-were-comrades

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

That's great. Good for them. Personally, I'm a lot more amenable to supporting Cuba. While certainly still deeply imperfect, I see Cuba as largely the victim of American bullshit sanctions.

But the fact that Cuba is better doesn't change the fact that tankies regularly support China specifically. If you support two things, with one being good and one being bad, you're still supporting a bad thing. So I don't think your comment justifies support for China.

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