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[–] conciselyverbose@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (54 children)

A. I don't actually feel bad for anyone because if you're involved in NFTs in any way, you're begging to be scammed. There is no legitimate use for NFTs.

B. This seems like blatant illegal fraud. You can't just advertise "get this cut of all transactions forever" to get people to join, then say "just kidding" once they include their "art" in your shitty scam. They're entitled to their shitty cut of your shitty transaction, and you can't hand wave it away by pointing to fine print when you sold the product very clearly making that claim.

[–] Bjornir@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago (53 children)

There are uses for NFT, but it is clearly not what they are famous for.

NFT aren't pictures of monke, they are a way to authenticate something in a decentralised way, so no trust in another entity needed. The picture isn't the NFT, and that is why you can just right click-copy it.

You can't however just copy the NFT, the actual token. Having a token that's verifiably owned by someone is useful for certain things. It's like a certificate of authenticity, but digital.

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Digital certificates has already existed for half a century. There’s nothing new. A certificate doesn’t get any more legitimate just because it’s recorded on a blockchain.

[–] bjorney@bjorney.lol 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yes but NFTs are held in trust by you, not a 3rd party business. If you want to sell your NFT to a friend you can do that without brokering the exchange through a middleman who can/will charge a cut

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't blockchain brokers charge a transaction fee?

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How you transact the ownership of NFTs is a different story. I’m reacting to the claim that NFT is “like a certificate of authenticity, but digital”, which is not unique to NFTs at all.

This claim is also often misunderstood, since the NFT can only verify the authenticity of the certificate itself, not the art/asset it’s pointing to.

I can easily create an NFT of Mona Lisa. The blockchain will see no problem with it at all. Heck, I can create 1000 NFTs of Mona Lisa if I want.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Rookie numbers, I can create billions

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is still solved by certificates, I can make my own self signed certificate that says it me and sign whatever I want. The only thing that crypto “solves” is over the wire man in the middle attacks, which aren’t even really a problem in the modern internet

[–] bjorney@bjorney.lol 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do I know you haven't made 10 copies of that same certificate and sold 9 to other people?

If it was an NFT I could see you issued 9 other copies of it before I was approached with the sale. Any other way I either have to place blind trust in you or rely on a 3rd party to handle the issuance/transaction

I could just use 10 different URLs for each NFT. All pointing to the same image. I can also use 10 different wallets to obfuscate it more. For that matter, I can use different blockchains as well.

Now it’s 10 completely different NFTs pointing to the same image. To verify there are no duplicates, you need to check every NFT in existence (across all blockchains in existence).

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Why are people so obsessed with bringing scarcity back on the internet

[–] kitonthenet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Why would I want that, I’m not selling you anything

[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts -2 points 1 year ago

This sounds completely logical, until you realize it’s for selling JPGs and expecting them to only exist in that one buyer’s hands.

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